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    My sps are not encrusting

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    also id consider dropping the temp to 78
    That's a myth...I see tanks at 84 and grow insane spsMy sps are not encrusting

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    Don't worry my friend, it takes time for this stuff to encrusted. I have all the frags from the swap and only one started to encrusted. The rest just looks the same. Just be happy your able to keep them alive and happy! They will soon take off and your gonna be fragging sps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR-MAN View Post
    That's a myth...I see tanks at 84 and grow insane spsMy sps are not encrusting
    I second this. I keep my tank at 81 and see lots of encrusting. The higher the temperature the faster the metabolic rate of the coral.

    Somewhat related: the mass bleaching events on the reefs are likely related to the sudden temperature changes not how hot the water is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clownfish Chris View Post
    I second this. I keep my tank at 81 and see lots of encrusting. The higher the temperature the faster the metabolic rate of the coral.

    Somewhat related: the mass bleaching events on the reefs are likely related to the sudden temperature changes not how hot the water is.
    My avg tank temp is 82. I like to think my acros grow at a decent rate but I've never compared directly to other tanks.

    FWIW, higher metabolic rate as long as you also supply them with adequate flow and food/light to compensate for the higher rate. Also, keep in mind it also increases metabolic rates of algaes and bacteria so its a double-edged sword sometimes, especially if you don't employ other methods to keep bacteria levels lower and prevent algae growth.

    Keeping higher temperatures also puts you closer to the peak temperature tolerable so it'll take less time in an emergency event to overheat your tank. I'm 2-3 degrees from break point of most corals where health will start declining but Gregg will be 6-7 degrees from breakpoint. Just things to consider when running a warmer tank.

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    Gregg, per your helpful instructions on how to figure out how much I should be doing, i have a report. So, when I asked for help for this question my calcium was 380 dkh 9.8 mag was 1420 temp 79.7 ph8.0 on 11/21/17 @ 8.p.m. I used Red Sea pro salt @ 1.25. In testing I used a combination of test kits that I had on hand. Calcium Red Sea and api. Dkh Red Sea reef foundation pro test kit and Hanna. Ph api and Milwaukee mc 122. Temp just measured by Kamoer dosing pump temp sensor. After your instructions I turned dosing pump #1 on using (part 1 Seachem fusion) and turned the other 3 off. Set the amount to 73.0 mil 2 times a day 36.5 mil one at 11 pm and one at 11 a.m. drooped house a/c down 3 degrees and tank temp dropped to 77.4 . Each day I tested at 8 pm and each day I could see dkh dropping and calcium increasing by 10. Yesterday calcium reached 420 and dkh was 9.1 . So I turned dosing pump off for the 24 hour pause. I tested tonight at 8 p.m. and observed the ex act same results as yesterday, with no movement with any thing. I would assume that means I do not need to dose anything and coral are not consuming detectable levels of calcium. Perhaps, the reason calcium was so low in first place is a salt issue, and I admit I did not test after last water change. So I am asking for additional advice if you have any of what to do next.

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    sounds like your moving along well.. i would keep testing daily alk and calcium until you see a change in your numbers, then determine the amount of dose needed to get your numbers back to where they are now and then divided by the number of days its been since your last dose and try dosing that amount daily.

    so for example, if tomorrow ( 2 days) you see a drop in your numbers and the calculator says to add 20ml... then divide the 20ml by 2 (since it took 2 days to get to that point) and dose 10 mil a day...

    also you might find others that disagree, always keep there opinions in mind when making a decision and consider the average response. Thats whats special about having a large group of people to ask, you may get several different opinions and not everyone may be correct but if you weigh out the answers over time youll figure it all out.
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    That's a pretty consistent typo, so I'm going to double-check: Is your specific gravity ~1.025 at ~77 degrees F?


    Regarding temperature, yes corals can adapt to live at higher temps. I've seen amazing tanks (Quoc's tank) that tolerated extremely hot 82 plus temp's and read about thriving coral reefs next to power plant exhausts, but that's not ideal and even minor additional stresses can kill them. If you can put some fans or increase the ventilation around your tank, I'd recommend that. I have family traveling in India right now, and they are surviving but they'd be happier if it was cooler.
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    Today’s update 11/26/17 @ 8pm, dosing pump still off. Temp is 77.6, ph 8.0 calcium still 420, now 48 hours dkh 8.8 . I have at least 30 sps frags and 30 zoa frags, some zoa have 1 head, some have up to 40. Mag is still 1420. I know I have seen zoa babies develop but nothing in sps. What could be keeping the calcium level stagnant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tray View Post
    Today’s update 11/26/17 @ 8pm, dosing pump still off. Temp is 77.6, ph 8.0 calcium still 420, now 48 hours dkh 8.8 . I have at least 30 sps frags and 30 zoa frags, some zoa have 1 head, some have up to 40. Mag is still 1420. I know I have seen zoa babies develop but nothing in sps. What could be keeping the calcium level stagnant?
    From this point, its just patience. They will encrust and grow, just give them time.

    You have alk usage and I'm sure calcium usage as well, even though it didn't reflect in the results. Keep in mind these are hobbyist grade kits so your calcium could have gone down 10ppm but it didn't pick up the difference or even just the amount of reagent used was a hair off and you got the same result.

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    Ok, I know this is getting old, and I appreciate everyone’s input and direction with my needed reef education. However today’s development is worth bringing up. 11/27/17 @ 8 p.m. calcium 400!!! Finally tested it 3 times with 2 different kits, for I did not believe it. Alk dropped to 8.5. Mag ph and temp same as yesterday. So I ask the experts to guide me now. It has been 96 hours since I achieved 420 calcium, and seized dosing pump. Calcium went from 420 to 400 dropped 20 ppm in 3 days. Alk started 9.6 went to 8.5. Should I calculate and turn pump on now or continue to test for another 3 days to see if it drops consistency.
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