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    An ethical question ..sort of.

    Bought a few fish from a usually reputable LFS in town a few days ago. Put them in a spanking brand new, never saw water QT tank and after two days....Bam...Velvet!!! Lucky me right? So what woukd you do? Broadcast it online to warn unsuspecting, potential buyers that they have a system wide outbreak? Pull management to the side and politely inform them they have a deadly infestation? Im leaning toward the latter but their husbandry over the years has been subpar to say the least. No offense but i think this is a norm for most LFS as their primary objective is to move their livestocks for profits thereby keeping water parameters fall to the ayside. Thoughts?

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    That's on you ! Proper practice qt your own fish.


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    sorry to hear. have you started treatment?

    Me: I would let the vendor know.

    Unfortunately, with the volume of fish that come through the stores you have to assume every fish you buy, from any vendor, has something.
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    I agree with Steve. If the LFS is one you have a good relationship with let them know. I'm not one to go shaming an LFS because I got a sick fish from them. Chances are this was a fish they just got in and was already infected. When I see a fish at a LFS I usually ask them how long they have had it in. If it's a new shipment I tend to be more cautious than if it were one that's been in their tanks for a couple weeks. That said I will still QT the new fish either way.

    Most vendors do not have the ability to QT all their new arrivals before placing them on sale. So if I am interested in a particular fish I will watch it in their tank for a little bit to see how it's behaving. Is it rubbing the rock? If so is it just once, or repeatedly etc. Hopefully when I buy a fish it will be fine, but if it doesn't make the first 7 days, I take it back for credit. It sucks, but it happens.

    Hopefully yours will make it.
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    Yeah, that's terrible that the fish have velvet but to me, its the end users problem. The LFSs get velvet from the vendors... That's the source of the fish. They didn't produce it in their own tanks in their store.

    I know of a LFS owner that can literally tell me which distributors have a higher chance of velvet and which don't. The LFS does their best to pass you along a healthy fish but often, the don't receive one in the first place.

    I would let them know so they can try to treat but trust no fish, from anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PorpoiseHork View Post
    Hopefully when I buy a fish it will be fine, but if it doesn't make the first 7 days, I take it back for credit. It sucks, but it happens.

    Hopefully yours will make it.
    I've never had a LFS offer me a credit for a fish that didn't make it. Not that I've directly asked, but have insinuated a credit and was left to feel like it was just too bad. And this was a $250 fish.

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    Yep. Itís up to us what we put in our tanks. It is not the fault of the vendor. ESPECIALLY with fish. They come and go so quickly in their systems. They could in theory get a fish with velvet in from a wild collect and sell it before it even transfers its illness. Like mentioned. Itís really a distributor problem. Not retail level. Couldnít hurt to tell them though. Iíd NOT put them on blast


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    Quote Originally Posted by webster1234 View Post
    I've never had a LFS offer me a credit for a fish that didn't make it. Not that I've directly asked, but have insinuated a credit and was left to feel like it was just too bad. And this was a $250 fish.
    The only LFS that I know of that does this is Aquarium World. For online purchases, Live Aquaria has a great refund policy.

    I agree with the others - the LFS can't really be held responsible for fish that come in with disease, and always quarantine.

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    I would go with option number two. No need to cause trouble over livestock. So many things can go wrong and considering a distributer or retailer liable is not entirely fair. Some things die, welcome to reefing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerTy View Post
    Yeah, that's terrible that the fish have velvet but to me, its the end users problem. The LFSs get velvet from the vendors... That's the source of the fish. They didn't produce it in their own tanks in their store.

    I know of a LFS owner that can literally tell me which distributors have a higher chance of velvet and which don't. The LFS does their best to pass you along a healthy fish but often, the don't receive one in the first place.

    I would let them know so they can try to treat but trust no fish, from anyone.
    I look at it as gambling in Vegas. You try and do everything thing that puts the odds in you favor. Most stores run copper and such to help the fish while they have them in their tanks, so the fish might look ok. Not the stores fault. But as said look at how long they have had the fish, is it eating? Does it swim ok, is it hiding, does it look stressed out? But at the end it is up to Lady Luck.


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