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    Funny you mention sand sifting...I have to say the very best sandsifting critter I had was hands down a Sand Dollar! I loved him, he even devoured a small patch of Cyano I had developed. Ultimately I re-homed him to a larger established tank with a very rich sand bed when I upgraded and got new substrate so he wouldnt starve. Definately not for a new tank...but if you have an exceptionally mature and nutrient rich system a Sand Dollar is a great addition as an ONLY bottom dweller.
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    This is my preferred method of pest control when possible. I usually pick livestock not just on their appearance, but what job or role they provide in the reef. A small wrasse like a six line or fairy for nuisance micro fauna control, a tang and foxface for various algae control etc. Not to mention my army of inverts as my clean-up crew. Now if only I could get my corals off the sand bed so I could get a small sand sifting star or something similar to work on the bed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RR-MAN View Post
    You would be surprised how resilient the bad pests are.

    In my experience, it takes a good 12 months for the dry rock to mature.

    True that!!

    Yeah, it takes a while. Too long for my impatient butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    I ordered from Tampa bay live rock in the past and I much preferred that over using dry rock. I've always used dry rock too. You get a few crabs here and there but they're super easy to take out. Compare that to basically a well established tank right out of the gates, and I choose the later. Plus, the rock looks amazing when you get it in.

    Yep, my rock will ship tomorrow. Looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PorpoiseHork View Post
    I prefer dry rock as to limit the potential ticking time bomb that is live rock from aqua cultured or direct from reef.
    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    that is what I want to do with my new tank.. or at least a 50/50 mix of true live rock and the dead stuff I have in trash cans.
    Iíd go all in bro. Just take the plunge. Your take will look amazing in a short period of time.

    If you wanna go with 50/50....better put your dry rock in a vat early. Get it soaking and treat it with LaCI to make sure itís not gonna leach. Iíve had so many issues with dry rock Iíd honestly rather deal with the pests that come with LR. From algae blooms to leaching 5-6 months, Iím just tired of it. Next time I do dry rock, when the thought even hits my mind Iíll buy something to get it soaking in ASAP with 30 MLís of LaCI right outta tha gate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    that is what I want to do with my new tank.. or at least a 50/50 mix of true live rock and the dead stuff I have in trash cans.
    Yeah that's what I'm planning on doing for my 150. The Tampa bay ends up being about $8 per pound shipped, which it's worth every dollar. However, if I need 100-150 pounds, that gets expensive real quick and I have a lot of other stuff to buy. Just use dry rock as the skeleton and decorate it with the Tampa bay stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefahholic View Post
    I’d go all in bro. Just take the plunge. Your take will look amazing in a short period of time.

    If you wanna go with 50/50....better put your dry rock in a vat early. Get it soaking and treat it with LaCI to make sure it’s not gonna leach. I’ve had so many issues with dry rock I’d honestly rather deal with the pests that come with LR. From algae blooms to leaching 5-6 months, I’m just tired of it. Next time I do dry rock, when the thought even hits my mind I’ll buy something to get it soaking in ASAP with 30 ML’s of LaCI right outta tha gate.
    Bingo on that. It only takes one time of using dry rock that you don't leech clean before you never do it again. Luckily, I learned that lesson my first time around. Ended up having to take the live rock out if the tank a little at a time and do what I should have done from the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefahholic View Post
    What do you mean?

    Basically not knowing what critters may be in there that could die and nuke the tank, or a pest that survived the trip could wreak havoc on your tank, livestock and/or corals. I know the chances are remote in most cases, but with the money invested for me it's not worth the risk.
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    I’ve been talking to a 20 year SPS guru. Some of you may know him as Keith Berkelhamer, and others as ReefBum. The guy can keep SPS. He recently (1 year ago) get nailed by about everything in the book. Why??? He started a tank with DRY ROCK. The exact rock I have in my system now. Lol. I’m used to this rock though. I’ve been dealing with it’s issues for about 8 years now. Lol

    Keith is the one who recently persuaded me to go with Live Rock after all these years. What do you know, it’s on a plane tomorrow!

    The dude got hit with....algae blooms, dinoflagellates, cyano, and you name it. So he hops on a plane and cherry picked some awesome Tahitian rock form Florida and flys back with it to Vermont!

    If you wanna see his previous tanks, go to his website. ReefBum.com

    I’ll link a few videos for you guys:


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