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    Hawaii might be about to ban your favorite sunscreen to protect its coral reefs

    Luckily my sunscreen does not contain either of those chemicals. So reef-safe(er) sunscreens (that work) do exist.

    Excerpt from the Washington Post May 2nd. Link to original article at bottom.SB 2471 states:

    Oxybenzone and octinoxate cause mortality in developing coral; increase coral bleaching that indicates extreme stress, even at temperatures below 87.8 degrees Fahrenheit; and cause genetic damage to coral and other marine organisms. These chemicals have also been shown to degrade coralsí resiliency and ability to adjust to climate change factors and inhibit recruitment of new corals. Furthermore, oxybenzone and octinoxate appear to increase the probability of endocrine disruption.
    ďThe legislature further finds that environmental contamination of oxybenzone and octinoxate persists in Hawaiiís coastal waters, as the contamination is constantly refreshed and renewed every day by swimmers and beachgoers,Ē according to the bill.


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    Did the article also go over sewage spills into the coasts off of Oahu...


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    Quote Originally Posted by mittens View Post
    Did the article also go over sewage spills into the coasts off of Oahu...


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    That sort of stuff is the real problem. Human sewage has been the only documented event where a disease was spread from humans to corals. I think it was a part of Fiji.

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    Serratia marcescens from sewage --> Caribbean elk horn coral

    https://www.livescience.com/15625-co...astewater.html

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    I think these groups go after ridiculous stuff because they have zero influence on the real contributors to what's effecting these reefs. Whether it be human waste, the absurd amount of chemicals from agriculture, tourism, etc, those industries have deep pockets and those group know that they can't touch them in the courts. So, just go after a few small guys, like our hobby, and call it a day.

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    Hanauma Bay attracts ~3000 visitors a day @ $7.50 a pop times letís just say 300 days a year equals $6,750,000 annually. This is the marine preserve that Iíve previously posted about seeing nothing but rock and saltwater. Plus parking, tram rides, food and souvenirs.



    https://www.hawaii-aloha.com/blog/20...t-hanauma-bay/


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    Quote Originally Posted by mittens View Post
    Hanauma Bay attracts ~3000 visitors a day @ $7.50 a pop times letís just say 300 days a year equals $6,750,000 annually. This is the marine preserve that Iíve previously posted about seeing nothing but rock and saltwater. Plus parking, tram rides, food and souvenirs.



    https://www.hawaii-aloha.com/blog/20...t-hanauma-bay/


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    I believe itís also a non profit group. I took a botany class in undergrad and one topic was sustainable ecology. The class was invited to a private chat with one of the board members to speak about the preserve. One of the issues brought up were monetary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mittens View Post
    I believe it’s also a non profit group. I took a botany class in undergrad and one topic was sustainable ecology. The class was invited to a private chat with one of the board members to speak about the preserve. One of the issues brought up were monetary.


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    Oh for sure. So they go after smaller communities such as ourselves, and then can use that as data to help sell their cause to other people. "Look what we did" is the pitch. The problem is that the folks they market to don't understand the full truth about what we do, donate money, and hope everything turns out well. The non-profits will never have enough money to go after the main offenders, so folks like us are on the cutting block. I know this article was about sunscreen, but it struck a chord with me about our hobby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Oh for sure. So they go after smaller communities such as ourselves, and then can use that as data to help sell their cause to other people. "Look what we did" is the pitch. The problem is that the folks they market to don't understand the full truth about what we do, donate money, and hope everything turns out well. The non-profits will never have enough money to go after the main offenders, so folks like us are on the cutting block. I know this article was about sunscreen, but it struck a chord with me about our hobby.
    Then again 3000 oiled up bodies attempting to snorkel is a lot of sunscreen a day. My brother argues a guy would use on average 1oz of sunscreen per outing (size of api ammonia bottle). I argue a girl would use double that. So letís just say 1oz since this is a family affair and kids are a big part of the numbers above. 3000oz of sunscreen dumped into the water daily. Thatís 375 cups or 23.5 gallons of sunscreen daily and upwards of 7000 gal yearly based on 300 days open.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mittens View Post
    Then again 3000 oiled up bodies attempting to snorkel is a lot of sunscreen a day. My brother argues a guy would use on average 1oz of sunscreen per outing (size of api ammonia bottle). I argue a girl would use double that. So letís just say 1oz since this is a family affair and kids are a big part of the numbers above. 3000oz of sunscreen dumped into the water daily. Thatís 375 cups or 23.5 gallons of sunscreen daily and upwards of 7000 gal yearly based on 300 days open.


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    Wonder what would happen to my shroom tank if I dosed just 1 drop a month in my 60.


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