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    Best way to introduce new clowns?

    So I went off and made a stupid decision and bought a young pair of saddleback clowns (about 1" long) and after QT and acclimation I placed them in a screened introduction box. I left them in there for a few days and at no point did my existing clowns show any interest in them. The issues started when I released them into the tank. The female clown instantly started charging them protecting her territory. So I put the saddlebacks back in the into box and did some more research on it. Deciding that the best thing to do was to pull my existing bonded clowns out. So I did that and and I also decided that I still wanted a pair of Percula clowns that my LFS has in stock. I found a pair that were nearly the same size as the saddlebacks and put them in with the saddlebacks to see if they would be ok together. They all commingled in the intro box without issue.

    To avoid and possible territorial issues I rearranged the rock structure and released the clutch into the tank. Everything went OK at first MY 6line was a bit fussy with them but quickly got over it, However my Cherub angel for the first time ever started going after the Percula's totally ignoring the saddlebacks. I pulled the Perculas out and put them back in the intro box and then the little turd started going after the saddlebacks. In an effort to feel safe the saddlebacks started trying to host my LT Plate and knowing this would not end well I put them back in the into box and left them all in there for a few more days. This time I released them into my Octospawn thinking they would be better to host in that. The Cherub again went after them but was much less aggressive than before. This was at lights out time and everyone calmed down so I left them overnight. Everything was fine the next day, but when I got home from work I noticed that one of the Percula's color was very muted and he had a couple nips in his fins. I put all of the clowns back in the intro box and within an hour the faded one was dead. I'll be replacing him today so I have two pair instead of three.

    I picked up a huge gold tip wall hammer yesterday and once it is acclimated and all is right I plan on trying to get them to host in that hoping they will find it more to their liking than my plate, but i'm at a loss as to what to do about the Cherub...

    Am I doing anything wrong here?

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    What size tank?

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    Mixing clowns rarely ends well. I attempted two pare in my 7' long 210. It ended with one dead clown and me removing the other. You can get away with a haram if all the clowns came from the same brood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris85 View Post
    What size tank?
    Currently a 40g but I will be upgrading to a 75 in 2-3 months.

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    Mixing clowns rarely ends well. I attempted two pare in my 7' long 210. It ended with one dead clown and me removing the other. You can get away with a haram if all the clowns came from the same brood.
    I thought of that, but the clowns while being different species are all about the same size and are not causing issues with one another. During their time in the intro box they were all peaceful with each other and at no point did I see any aggression from either set. When I released them all together the first time the saddlebacks kept to the left side and the Percula's chose the middle and right side of the tank. It's my pygmy cherub angel that being problematic with them, despite my rearranging the rockscape prior to releasing them.

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    Put the cherub in the acclimation box for a couple of weeks. The aggression in the clowns will come back regardless.
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    I would wait till I got the 75. I dont think you are going to have much luck with the clowns either way. I would just leave the fish in to work things out. Dont keep pulling them it is just stressing the fish more. Make sure the clowns have a place to hide. Good luck.

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    I will have to work to catch the cherub. It does not like my net and I have tried ell my usual tricks to catch it. I left he net in the tank for a couple hours and the second I move it that little bugger darts for the rock. I tried dispersing some pellets to entice it out and catch it that way. Nope..

    But I think I'm going to end up losing all of them. My wife texted me saying the Percula was not looking good and was swimming on his side and color is starting to fade. She also said that both of the Saddlebacks were just sitting on the bottom of the into box not moving much. If I do I can get credit back at the stores I got them from, still sucks though.

    If I do lose them all I'll wait on getting replacements until I have the new tank up and then can put them in there safely where there is little risk or territorial issues.

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    Take a pickle jar (clear glass) put some food in it , tie some fishing line to i and use it to pull the jar up when he cherub is in it. Works for me every time

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    How are the fish?

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    I ended up loosing the other two clowns that were not doing well. I took my remaining saddleback in and they gave me a decent credit for him as well as full credit for the Percula and Ocellaris that didn't make it. Unfortunately the shop I got the saddlebacks from couldn't give me a credit on that one as it had been too long since I purchased them.

    I tested my water parameters when I got home and all looked right in line and also had it tested at the store and they confirmed my results that all parameters are fine. All I can figure is they got too stressed out and couldn't handle it.


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