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    Quote Originally Posted by malira View Post
    My goodness, that is freakin' awesome.

    If you're going for the finest bubbles, and you don't want to mess with replacing the wood diffusers every couple of weeks, this is the only way to go. Looks like they're marked down on that website quite a bit too. Get em while they're hot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    While making counter current, air stone driven skimmers, I discovered a wonderful air stone. It's ceramic and doesn't need replacing the way that wood does. Every six months or so, you need to clean it in vinegar just like any other piece of equipment, but other than that, you don't replace it. I used them side by side with wooden airstones and the bubble sizes/production was the same. Also, I think the company discontinued that line of air stones. I bought a few of them just in case I ever needed them again and couldn't get them.


    Link to the stone
    Micro-Pore Air Diffusers


    Here's the stone in action in my old tank.
    https://youtu.be/w-uYD8qxh8U
    They still available from the freshwater industry as they use them as Co2 diffusers for planted tanks.
    Got to find the link if I had some time. b
    But it needs more cleaning than the six months as calcium had a bigger impact on them than the freshwater application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    They still available from the freshwater industry as they use them as Co2 diffusers for planted tanks.
    Got to find the link if I had some time. b
    But it needs more cleaning than the six months as calcium had a bigger impact on them than the freshwater application.
    I'll try on desktop I can't find the buy button on my phone.
    I never dreamed of being a father............Now I can't imagine being anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    They still available from the freshwater industry as they use them as Co2 diffusers for planted tanks.
    Got to find the link if I had some time. b
    But it needs more cleaning than the six months as calcium had a bigger impact on them than the freshwater application.

    Yeah, it's been a while since I used them. If I remember correctly, they ran pretty solid for three months or so then had a slow degradation in performance over the next few months until it became a problem and they needed to be cleaned. Either way, still much more low maintenance than the wood stones and much cheaper after a handful of months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malira View Post
    I'll try on desktop I can't find the buy button on my phone.
    Yeha I couldn't find it from my desktop either. Here's a website that says they have them though.

    Deep Water Micro-Pore Air Diffusers - Futuregarden.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Yeah, it's been a while since I used them. If I remember correctly, they ran pretty solid for three months or so then had a slow degradation in performance over the next few months until it became a problem and they needed to be cleaned. Either way, still much more low maintenance than the wood stones and much cheaper after a handful of months.
    Yep no doubt.
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    A quote from the Macro Guy...;I feel there're a lot of people grabbing at straws to either make microscrubbing seem negative, or just arguing to argue because they don't want to try it, I don't know? I'm surprised at the amount of push back from something that doesn't cost over $100 and is reef related lol.

    There is no way to 100% pinpoint the claims made by EC without thousands of dolllars in research and testing and isolating, but there are plenty of people who will dump a new chemical in their tanks that has passed ZERO fda testing or even bothers to include the chemicals on the bottles, just cause it says it will color up corals or clear water, etc.


    There is no money or ploy to be made from microscrubbing, it is essentially free source code, you need a wood or fine ceramic air stone and an air pump on a timer.


    As far as benefits, it's somewhat simple to figure out,


    -Stable PH throughout the entire tanks cycle, day and night, low CO2 build up at night. So what benefits from stable PH and no CO2 build up? The list would go on for pages.


    -Less organics in the water column. So what benefits when the tank has low nitrates,phosphates, and not alot of particles floating around to bind to the particles your sps and corals eat?


    -More O2 for live stock. Everything life form wise benefits from a little more oxygen, people included, what's to say the same does not benefit our corals and fish? So now we need a list of all the benefits from more oxygen.


    I wish I could give everyone detailed analysis, statistics, videos, samples, and certified scientist in a white coat to come point out stuff on an Excel Graph chart, but I can't. All I can say is try it? If you don't see any improvement or notice any changes, then stop .


    I will say without a doubt, I believe my parameters stay stable because I'm Microscrubbing. 40 clownfish fed 4 times a day, 20 nems, sps colonies, lps tons of micro fauna, and a 20% water change once a month.


    Happy reefing!! It's all about learning and trying new things. Who would've thought that 10 years ago an LED fixture would've been enough to grow SPS?



    Something so simple as air....... But why not?
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    Yeah that's a fair argument for sure. Plus, the fact that even if it doesn't work, it won't hurt your tank and that this a super cheap method makes this easy to try. If you don't like it, then put the air pump back with the other equipment where it has been sitting for a long time. No biggie.

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    ^^^^^LOL^^^^^^
    I have a few great air pumps I will try but all will pull air from the outside.
    Got to bring my diamond hole drill home tomorrow to go through the outside wall
    I don't regrat the things I did wrong............ I regrat the good things I did for the wrong people!

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    Did he happen to mention anything about sponges?(did it kill them)


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