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    Micro Scrubbing Bubbles. | REEF2REEF Saltwater and Reef Aquarium Forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    On my way to Dallas I spoke for 2 hrs to Cruz the founder of this method.
    He emailed me a bunch of his notes and talking to him it makes all sense.
    I'm on my way back to Houston and when I come home I'll post all the info I have up.
    Remember this guy know his stuff and he proved this method an a large scale.
    I will get to that too, just amazing!
    I am really interested in this. I hope it will help with the Dinos in my tank. H2O2 is helping slowly but my lps don't seem to like it.

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    Following with this. I thought it was pure silliness the first time I heard it. Apparently it's for real.


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    Other than the thread on R2R which is getting longer everyday as more ppl believe in this Micro-Nano Bubble Scrubbing.
    Micro and nano bubble tank treatment | REEF2REEF Saltwater and Reef Aquarium Forum

    Cruz Arias background has been in automation, Electrical and Controls Engineering for many world class chemical and pharmaceutical companies.
    As well as automation for the high profile projects like the Prince's Airport in Dubai, Deer Springs Valley Resort, Utah, Wynn and Encore, MGM, Fontainebleau, Cabo Wabo, Club Blue Green, and Mandalay Bay, home of The Shark Reef Aquarium.
    Automation included Environment Controls, Process Controls (for HVAC and Manufacturing)... Waste Water and Water Treatment Facilities in Las Vegas and Fountain Valley (Orange County, CA).
    For many Manufacturing Facilities including AB (Anheuser Busch) Van Nuys, Fairfield, and San Diego (Sea World) we concentrated on waste stream management and multi stage remediation.

    As you can see a reef tank controlled due to MicroNano Bubbles is Lego to Cruz.
    The Whole system is based on millions of gallons to clean and keep it clean just with injecting MicroNano bubbles into the water or feed your return pump with a wood air stone.


    Not only that it helps to clean your system but it also is a new treatment against Dino's and the dreaded Cyano.
    Ok ppl ask then self how?
    Well simple, by injecting air into the tank with help of a return pump you make everything that is not heavier than the air it self due to that the microbubles will attach float, due to the floating and water movement with the overflow we have you basically skim it off into the sump and from there in your socks or and skimmer.
    Yes you turn your tank into a large skimmer for a few hours, just turn the air-pump off a hour or less before your lights come on as result that your tank is air free of micro bubbles.



    More positive results are that your corals feel a lot happier and grow faster and better not to mention the awesome colors that ppl experience with this.
    You can find pics of that on the R2R forum.


    According to Cruz Nanobubbles also rub against each other when aggregating ... just like water droplets rub each other in the thunder clouds. It produces static electricity. Which affects solubility of ions...Static Bench Top Chemistry is different than Dynamic (chaos) Chemistry. The gas/water interface also is a major part of "reef water chemistry"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcP...detailpage#t=0

    Here are a few observations and initial benefits we have seen other hobbyists have witnessed first hand WITHOUT ANY CHANGE to what they have been doing before, with just the addition of this regimen to their reef ...program. To many, seeing is believing. 1. CO2 degassing
    2. Excess slime removal from corals and fish
    3. Better water clarity
    4. removal of detritus and floating particulates
    5. Remediation of Cyano and Dinoflagellate infestations
    6. Better coral and fish membrane health which allows them to grow faster and more colorful...
    7. Better appetite in fish (more foraging in algae eaters)
    8. Higher pod and invertebrate populations (snails included)
    9. Higher activity levels in invertebrates including spawning and breeding
    10. Faster carapace hardening in Inverts after shedding... making them less vulnerable to predators
    11. Higher survival rate of corals, inverts, and fish (provided water chemistry is good and stable)...
    the list goes on and on...

    Once again, these are just a few of the physical and physiological observed benefits that hobbyists CAN SEE...
    The chemistry and mechanics behind this method is extensive... and very application specific... and we can get lost in the amount of literature and chemical electric reactions that occur in moving (dynamic) water versus static benchtop chemistry...
    Solubility of ions in a solution depend on electro negativity of the solute (water in this case)... water is not just water... it is a stream of life giving electricity...
    The bubbles rubbing up against each other are like balloons or water droplets in the storm clouds... as they pass each other and rub and bump into each other, static electricity is generated... that's the difference between a stagnant dead lake and a dynamic healthy lake... moving water...
    TURBULENCE AND WATER MOVEMENT ALONE DOES NOT GENERATE OXYGEN...
    Hopefully this helps answer observed results which is a portion of the scientific method.

    Protecting coral reefs with bubbles

    Many more info you can find on Cruz Arias website https://www.facebook.com/pages/Elega...11705699091667

    As of now there's still one hobbyist to come forward who tried this and it wasn't working.
    Guess what will be running on MicroNano bubbles as of today............... The Diesel frag tanks till I get my other air-pump in order to run the Diesel DT on this.
    Last edited by Diesel; 03-28-2016 at 03:23 PM.
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    Looking forward to the report on your observations!

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    I going to try it. I going to order the stone tonight.
    Any recommendations on the wooden airstone.
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    Interesting concept.
    I had a bad outreak of Cyano about 6 months ago and I used Red Slime Remover to get it under control. Part of using that treatment recomended an air stone to increase aeration. I noticed it helped skimm the Cyano as a side effect.
    Now that i have Amphidinium Dinos in my tank I'll try the micro bubbles for that soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malira View Post
    I going to try it. I going to order the stone tonight.
    Any recommendations on the wooden airstone.
    While making counter current, air stone driven skimmers, I discovered a wonderful air stone. It's ceramic and doesn't need replacing the way that wood does. Every six months or so, you need to clean it in vinegar just like any other piece of equipment, but other than that, you don't replace it. I used them side by side with wooden airstones and the bubble sizes/production was the same. Also, I think the company discontinued that line of air stones. I bought a few of them just in case I ever needed them again and couldn't get them.


    Link to the stone
    Micro-Pore Air Diffusers


    Here's the stone in action in my old tank.
    https://youtu.be/w-uYD8qxh8U

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish Keeper82 View Post
    Interesting concept.
    I had a bad outreak of Cyano about 6 months ago and I used Red Slime Remover to get it under control. Part of using that treatment recomended an air stone to increase aeration. I noticed it helped skimm the Cyano as a side effect.
    Now that i have Amphidinium Dinos in my tank I'll try the micro bubbles for that soon.

    It seems like every time someone uses the red clime remover, there's a dino outbreak right after. I'm assuming it was already in the tank, but cyano wouldn't let it gain any territory. I used it once, and even after I fixed my nutrient export issue, dino showed up a couple of weeks after the red slime was gone.

    Anyway, I had a little cyano pop up on the sand after I starved my Chaeto to death. Let me see if this system helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    While making counter current, air stone driven skimmers, I discovered a wonderful air stone. It's ceramic and doesn't need replacing the way that wood does. Every six months or so, you need to clean it in vinegar just like any other piece of equipment, but other than that, you don't replace it. I used them side by side with wooden airstones and the bubble sizes/production was the same. Also, I think the company discontinued that line of air stones. I bought a few of them just in case I ever needed them again and couldn't get them.


    Link to the stone
    Micro-Pore Air Diffusers


    Here's the stone in action in my old tank.
    https://youtu.be/w-uYD8qxh8U
    My goodness, that is freakin' awesome.
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